New York Mets 2025 Season

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While Jose Siri is getting cut the guy the Mets traded for him Eric Orze has a 3.02 ERA with 24 scoreless innings in 41.2 innings pitched for the Rays. Don’t think the Mets could use him out of the bullpen right about now?

Just a terrible trade on the Stearns ledger.

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Add to Stearns early returns, as I believe it was sirvoo a week or so ago pointed out, pushing Tong to the majors way too soon. Pretty easy to say right now, and may be a cheap shot, but I am not at all impressed with the guy.
 
Problem is the Mets don’t have the tiebreaker against either team. I just don’t feel good with Mendoza managing. His finger is nowhere near the pulse of this team. He makes the wrong decisions every night. He needs to do what George Costanza did.
 
Binghamton wins the EAS. Just a dominant team that didn’t skip a beat after graduating Tong, Benge, Williams, Clifford, and Parada (plus McLean from much earlier this year).

What a testament to the health of the system right now. I don’t think Binghamton has ever come close to having so much combined talent in one season .
 
Unfortunately, this is what a .500 team does. Win 1 big game, lose the next just as big game. Red hot, 20 games over .500. Ice cold giving it all back.

When you get down to it, the next 4 games ARE the playoffs. We control our own destiny with four to play and no margin for error as we speak.

Tonight’s game is massive because this team cannot fall into a tie (and lose either tiebreaker) heading into the final weekend.

Worst scenario would be that we lose tonight and both Az and Cincy win. Would essentially put us 1 game behind both teams with 3 to go.

By comparison, the 67-76 Mets teams always played better behind Seaver. Didn't score a lot of runs, but played better defense and got big hits. He usually made whatever they gave him stand up.

What we really need tonight is for McLean to pitch great and go deep (7 innings). Hand the ball to Diaz with less than a 5 run lead and win this.

Best hope is we win and drop either or both Reds or DBs 2 games back.
No breathing room whatsoever. Hold your breath. Playoff baseball.
 
Skenes is finishing the first season for someone under 23 to have a sub 2.0 ERA since Doc. That Doc season was crazy. He had 276 IP versus Skenes at 187.

The lack of stamina in pitchers is crazy these days. Peterson has called off a cliff from too many innings. Gone are the day of 200 IP workhorses. A decade ago you had 13 pitchers top 200 innings. This year 2, last year 4.
 
logen said:
Add to Stearns early returns, as I believe it was sirvoo a week or so ago pointed out, pushing Tong to the majors way too soon. Pretty easy to say right now, and may be a cheap shot, but I am not at all impressed with the guy.
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To add to the above, two starts in AAA were not enough to let the league figure Tong out, to get any kind of a book on him. It happens so much faster in the bigs.
Any real analysis is always in retrospect but Stearns is paid for his decisions and this was a very bad one. His assertion at time of call-up that Tong had earned the promotion was extremely premature and very wrong.
Hopefully Tong is mature enough to keep his confidence because he obviously has really good stuff but was nowhere near ready to be put in the position he was put in.
Finally, Stearns put himself and the team in a position to maybe having no choice but gambling on Tong because of his penchant for “patching” together his pitching staff. Letting Severino and Quintana walk were obviously mistakes, not great pitchers but better than the replacements, both experienced, veteran pitchers who would have provided the team some stability and continuity.
 
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Skenes is finishing the first season for someone under 23 to have a sub 2.0 ERA since Doc. That Doc season was crazy. He had 276 IP versus Skenes at 187.

The lack of stamina in pitchers is crazy these days. Peterson has called off a cliff from too many innings. Gone are the day of 200 IP workhorses. A decade ago you had 13 pitchers top 200 innings. This year 2, last year 4.
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I dont think necessarily it's all about having less stamina. First, these guys today all throw gas from the very first pitch until they fatigue around 85 pitches. Very few humans could throw more than 100 pitches all about 95mph and keep going at that velocity.


Back in the 80s and before, most guys paced themselves, changed speeds and were expected to go deep into games.

Second, the incidence of Tommy John injuries is staggering. Put that much strain in your arm and eventually you will blow out that ligament. Teams want to protect their investment in golden arms, so they want to get them out of games at 105 pitches or less.

I recall Gooden's fastball straightened out maybe by 88 or 89 and was much easier to hit relatively speaking. Maybe a combination of too many innings plus unhealthy living.

Weird that 95mph is a given now, with cracking 100mph no longer a phenomenom
 
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Skenes is finishing the first season for someone under 23 to have a sub 2.0 ERA since Doc. That Doc season was crazy. He had 276 IP versus Skenes at 187.

The lack of stamina in pitchers is crazy these days. Peterson has called off a cliff from too many innings. Gone are the day of 200 IP workhorses. A decade ago you had 13 pitchers top 200 innings. This year 2, last year 4.
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We have the prospect capital to take a shot at him this offseason.

It just doesn’t make sense for an awful team to have one player that good that doesn’t play 4 out of 5 games.

Take on a bad contract, give them Sproat, Mauricio, Benge, Acuna, and some lower level talent.
 
Keeping an eye on Reds as they have day game with Pittsburgh. There was a 90 minute rain delay which i like because maybe it takes some of the wind out of the sails of the more desperate team (red) since they had to sit and wait for awhile.

0-0 in the top of the 2nd. Old friend Tommy Pham just hit a chopper to 3rd to lead off the inning with an infield single for the Bucs
 
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