The New And Improved Off Topic Thread
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Nonsense, we are talking about NOW not âhistoricallyâ.
Adolph Rupp?? A man who quit coaching over 50 years ago!! If thatâs the best you got you just proved our point.
And Jackie Robinson and Dixie Walker were even longer ago than that. And I guess Pee Wee Reese, from Kentucky, openly supporting Robinson is irrelevant because he doesnât fit your narrative.
But it does add credence to our point that there are âgoodâ (Reese) and âa$$holesâ (Walker) people everywhere, even âhistoricallyâ.
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I canât answer that because I never saw Boyer play and I know he canât because he is younger than me.
I know there are very few here that go back to the Brooklyn Dodgers . New York Giants days of the 1950âs.
The Dodgers had a 3 rd Baseman , Billy Cox who was considered the best glove in the National League , in fact maybe all of Baseball .
He didnât have a long career in the Majors but , he was a wizard with the Glove
Think of that Dodger infield , Cox on 3 rd, Reese SS, Jackie at 2 nd base and Gil Hodges at 1 st .
3 HOF players in the same infield . That didnt happen often .
The Dodgers had a 3 rd Baseman , Billy Cox who was considered the best glove in the National League , in fact maybe all of Baseball .
He didnât have a long career in the Majors but , he was a wizard with the Glove
Think of that Dodger infield , Cox on 3 rd, Reese SS, Jackie at 2 nd base and Gil Hodges at 1 st .
3 HOF players in the same infield . That didnt happen often .
One correction. I'm now living in the Deep South (Florida) and the proper phrase is "Damn Yankees!".
My older sister (she is now 83) was a huge Brooklyn Dodger fan growing up in the late 40s and 50s and I definitely remember her talking bout Billy Cox being the best whenever I would later rave about Clete Boyer being a great fielding third basement in the early 60s.
Cox had retired and been traded by the Dodgers before Cleve Boyer started his Career with the Yankees .
If Billy Cox played simultaneously with Brooks Robinson , people would say Brooks Who?
Seriously , Brooks was a much better hitter than Billy .
There were very few doubles down the line with, either, Billy , Brooks or Clete in their Careers .
Actually , Cleteâs brother Ken , who played for the Cardinals was a very good 3 rd baseman too.
And , a much better hitter than Clete . So Ken was just 2 nd best in his family as a 3 td baseman .
If Billy Cox played simultaneously with Brooks Robinson , people would say Brooks Who?
Seriously , Brooks was a much better hitter than Billy .
There were very few doubles down the line with, either, Billy , Brooks or Clete in their Careers .
Actually , Cleteâs brother Ken , who played for the Cardinals was a very good 3 rd baseman too.
And , a much better hitter than Clete . So Ken was just 2 nd best in his family as a 3 td baseman .
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Rebuttal accepted.
Over the many years of being in business, I've met and do business with a lot of folks in the south and south west, they are all great.
I led into the comment by saying if you run into an unsophisticated Southerner ...but I should have phrased it differently, and said, a "small percentage of unsophisticated Southerners...who think NYers are rude, etc.....", that was what I meant. Certainly it was not a shot at all people in the South, my daughter and family live in south Florida.
The schools you named are all great schools, of course, but that is non-apropos of the point I was trying to (lamely) make.
Back in college in the 1970's (early) me and three Brooklyn guys stopped in Florence SC for teh night on our way to Daytona Beach. The clerk at the cheap motel we stayed in for the night, did ask us when he learned we were from NYC, if we "would leave our switchblades in the ve--hicle." Purely anecdotal.
Clete a notch below Brooks Robinson, Craig Nettles a notch below Clete, but both Nettles (especially) and Robinson were better hitters than Clete, as was mentioned so was his brother Ken of the Cardinals.
Here's my pecking order, taking into account hitting and fielding,
1. Brooks,
2. Nettles,
3. Ken B
4. Clete Boyer
This thread is all over the place. Request to please keep it about the alabama game
Brook Jersey , I hope you took our back and forth with some whimsy and , not hostility .
Florence is not exactly the gem of the South but , hey it gets a lot of traffic off 95 .
Many posters on redfans have been to Charleston several times for Tournaments and have enjoyed it . It is arguably the â Jewel of the South â Savannah , a runner up .
Of course , there are good / bad people everywhere , North and South .
As a native New Yorker , I worked with a lot of people who lived in N Jersey as our home office was in Warren, NJ.
A standing joke from us New Yorkers was
when someone said , they lived in NJersey, we would ask ,â what exit ?â
Of course , knowing that so many people live near the Turnpike or Garden State Parkway , itâs likely their exit will be mentioned .
Or , at least travel those roads to get where they need too.
I actually lived in NJersey for a few years . Exit 120 GS and 91 as well .
Yes, the switchblade experience was funny.
In the South it would be , â can you take your Gun out from the counter or , leave it in your holster ?â
Do many Southerners carry concealed ? Yes !
Iâd like to âconcealâ this thread.
Noted . But ,hey , itâs the off season . No BB until November .
Whatâs the difference if the dialogue goes off track a little ?
A little is one thing. Im guilty of that too but that thread was totally derailed.. Some of us may not have time to read thru history of race in south, great 3rd basemen of half century ago etc.. when at work and time limited. Much rather read about the Alabama game, who's going & how to get there.
Itâs not a small enough percentage from my experience. One thing I ask of my NY friends is how many times a person who does not live here says âhow can you live there!â in an aggressive tone the first time you meet them. For me I lost count long ago. Many times it has been people who have never set foot here. Itâs a wildly rude comment as itâs a decent assumption that one likes the City they live in. The ones who actually think they arenât assholes say it this way, âYou guys are so nice (this means Mrs IDRAFT is with me as nobody meets me alone and says this) I canât BELIEVE you are from NY.â
I have asked many of my same friends if they have ever made a similar opening comment to anyone about where they lived and to a man not one ever has. And that tracks to me as even if one wonders it is not difficult if you arenât an asshole to just ask what they like about where they live.
When I was in Charleston we became friendly with one of the hotel workers who saw our SJU garb. He was a transplant from New Jersey and had been there ten years. He told us he really liked it overall and was happy he moved but ten years in half the people on his block wonât even acknowledge him or say hello to him if they pass him on the street because they knew he was from up north. On the other hand my son and his wife lived in Raleigh for two years and never had one problem. We were there a bunch and no issues either untilâŚ.
Homesick and with a baby they decided to return to be near family. It was emotional though as they loved the house they lived in and had some great moments in Raleigh. A week after they returned to NY I went back to Raleigh with my son to clear the place out. The day we finished we called the Uber to take us to the airport who asked us where we were going and then spent the entire drive trashing NY and wondering why anyone would raise a family there. Thatâs how you get no tip and a zero star review.
All southerners - of course not! And the guy who started this thread clearly came in peace. But letâs be real about the south too.
Very Fair Point.
Let's beat Bama at the buzzer, and Mike Maher and I will buy our OP (Tide fan) all the beers he can drink.
I still think it was very cool of BB fan from Alabama to post here friendly and asking for suggestions about NYC.
I would add that most if not all of the National Universities listed in the post have a very high population of students from the Northeast as part of their very diverse student populations that are hardly representative of their locations.
PS I would also add that the "What Exit?" joke stemmed from, or at least boomed in use after, a hugely popular SNL skit during the Piscopo era.
My daughter went to the University of Delaware and her boyfriend is still living there. I think one day she would consider taking the Amtrak from Wilmington at least for a hybrid job. The northern part of the state borders PA, MD and South Jersey so it's definitely not the south. The southern part of the state is often referred to as Slow Low Delaware which feels more southern to me but also has the beach towns which have people from many of the states in the area in the summer.
The school to go to if you teally identify with being a southerner is Ole Miss.
The flip side of my comments on some southerners, or biases that just don't die. (Remember George Wallace?) Is that some of the very best people I befriended in my career were from large and small tiwns in Arkansas, Texas, Kentucky, North Carolina, West Virginia. Once you gained their trust they are amazingly warm, supportive, and terrific people.
