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SJU Center Court said:
The SJU Center Court name will NOT be changed.
Picked my seat yesterday and remained in same section however I did have to move 8 rows further back.
Not great but not terrible.

I think allowing everyone to buy a max of 6 seats was very unfair to many long time season ticket holders.
Max should have been however many you bought in previous seasons.

I hope (but doubt) that Ed will be a guest on one of the podcasts to review the results of the reseat and answer questions like the above.
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Even UConn, which has a track record of treating their existing season ticket holders horribly (such as taking away people's Forever Seats) did not allow season ticketholders to increase the number of seats they had when they did their recent reseating, until everyone else had selected their seats first. It was a horrible decision on behalf of SJU to let people pick 6 seats. No one needs 6 seats. And if SJU is projected to be such a hot ticket this season, the seats are going to sell anyway, they'll get the revenue.
 
austour said:
I believe their goal was to sell as many season tickets as possible. Folks who increased their ticket amounts would not have done so if the extra tix were put to the end of the line as they would not be seated together. Not saying that's good/bad or right/wrong. I have no dog in this fight. But I understand it's not ideal for long time mid market season ticket holders.

The other way this becomes problematic is if those folks who are buying extra tix are doing so on a speculative basis for resale based on potential ROI on what is believed to be a hot ticket this year. That would be deplorable but kind of indicative of our times.
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I know people who have worked together to have friends increase their tickets and they are going to drop the ones they had in order to "cut the line." I don't know what percentage of people increasing tickets now in the first half of the list are doing it for this reason, or how many people further back will now say "thanks but no thanks." Since I know people are doing it, I know it is not zero percent. And they aren't breaking any of the "rules" in place.

Every time this occurs it means three things:

1. - Someone cut the line over someone who might have just made a donation
2. - The person who got to cut the line did so without making a donation
3. - No extra season tickets were sold

I get it, SJU does not care about point number one, but point number two seems against what they are trying to accomplish.
 
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dk423 said:
There's ways you can prevent people from selling tickets to third party sites. I got discounted tickets from a Mets promo and realized I couldn't make it, but Stubhub didn't allow me to upload it due the ticket being from a promo. STJ folks should be able to track where these tickets are being sold third-party and take those seats away. Duke is very strict about it.

If they want to be ahead of its time, maybe they can create a program where they can offset the cost with the person, and then "sell it" to a student or someone in the program.
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You are right the Mets do not allow the promo tickets to be resold. They not only allow it they have a partnership with SeatGeek for all other tickets. Knowing how SJU is now run they might well be getting a cut of the resale fees, which are quite high. That will make them very happy and leave no inclination to who owns the first ticket rights.
 
I haven't had time to talk about my experience but now that I do - a few things.

- I am always willing to call out SJU for bad customer service and horrible systems. Not this time. I am frankly shocked at how good the software was and how easy it was to navigate and pick out a ticket. Good for SJU!!

- I am in my exact same seats in CA and in something that is as close to identical in MSG as possible. Which makes sense to me because I like my seats personally, but they are not incredible or anything. You never know but this was my expectation going in, so now that I have been retired a few years it's nice to know I still have the ability to forecast and read a seating chart.

- From the feedback I'm getting unless things shake out very differently for the people going next week, later in the process, my experience has been common. It makes me think this won't happen again a year from now as it isn't going to be so easy for SJU to scare the STHs a second time. Much simpler to just figure out what you want to achieve in revenue and up the prices accordingly. Time will tell but that's my prediction.

Best of luck to all who reside here and still have to pick.
 
dk423 said:
There's ways you can prevent people from selling tickets to third party sites. I got discounted tickets from a Mets promo and realized I couldn't make it, but Stubhub didn't allow me to upload it due the ticket being from a promo. STJ folks should be able to track where these tickets are being sold third-party and take those seats away. Duke is very strict about it.

If they want to be ahead of its time, maybe they can create a program where they can offset the cost with the person, and then "sell it" to a student or someone in the program.
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That's true. Duke does not prevent it but warns they could cancel season tix. Likely not for a few resales but for dumping an entire season ticket.

Flip side of # tix allowed. For years i tried to purchase 2 additional seats close to mine or next to mine for my adult children. Even being up on the priority point totem pole they were not available. My kids either had to sit far away when we went to games as a family or purchase at a hefty up charge on the aftermarket just to be in the same zip code. I did purchase 4 two years ago but they were 10-12 rows back.

Finally with a reseat and a bunch of points i was able to get 4 together.

The only "leverage" the athletic department has to get new donations from the roughly 50% of STHs who have not donated beyond the mandatory not-really-a-donation donation. It worked because a lot of money flowed in from STHs looking to improve their selection order.

It sucks I know, but this is not a professional sports team. It's a revenue producing sport for college athletics where the goal above branding is to spur charitable donations from alums and fans. To that extent it's now the new normal as long as we win. If we fall back to old times, we will be back to not being able to give these tickets away. For now at least Repole'$ millions won't let that happen and neither will Shanley.
 
I put a deposit down on tickets after giving up my season tickets after the pandemic. I can pick seats at MSG(CA will be gone) on the 20th. I can see what is available now, curious as to what is available in two weeks.
 
Andrew said:
I put a deposit down on tickets after giving up my season tickets after the pandemic. I can pick seats at MSG(CA will be gone) on the 20th. I can see what is available now, curious as to what is available in two weeks.
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I think like IDRAFT said the bulk of people hopping on other people’s plans to move up happened this week so for msg inventory I don’t think it will be much different than let’s say by next Tuesday. Carnesseca is a completely different story.
 
Redenbacher said:
Even UConn, which has a track record of treating their existing season ticket holders horribly (such as taking away people's Forever Seats) did not allow season ticketholders to increase the number of seats they had when they did their recent reseating, until everyone else had selected their seats first. It was a horrible decision on behalf of SJU to let people pick 6 seats. No one needs 6 seats. And if SJU is projected to be such a hot ticket this season, the seats are going to sell anyway, they'll get the revenue.
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How do you take away a seat that is called a Forever Seat?
 
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SJU85 said:
How do you take away a seat that is called a Forever Seat?
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They blamed it on renovations. People weren't impressed.

In 2019, UConn Athletics announced on their website a process called Forever Seats in which season ticket holders could pick their seats and keep them “year after year when they renew.” This meant that as long as the ticket holder renewed the 2019-2020 season seats every year, the seats could be theirs forever if they paid the associated costs each year.

Due to the renovations, those with “Forever Seats” are not guaranteed their specifically chosen seats anymore.
 
NCJohnnie said:
My son and I used to joke whether Africa by Toto or Together Forever by Ric Astley was the most annoying song of all time lol. Astley always won until they started playing an Africa remake every day at the neighborhood pool…
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Weezer! They put on a hell of a show but don't think their version is anything memorable.
 
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