NCAA Tournament seeding

If we get a 2 seed I’d be mildly surprised if we don’t draw Robert Morris in the 2/15 in Providence. Would make too much sense
 
I was just asking our 114 crew and they weren't positive.

Selection Sunday once we find out where we play when do they announce what time we play ?
 
I know this hasn’t been mentioned but does anyone think the NCAA still has it out for Rick or it’s hey we can make money off of St.John’s . Just throwing that out there. I don’t put anything pass them.
 
classof2010 said:
I know this hasn’t been mentioned but does anyone think the NCAA still has it out for Rick or it’s hey we can make money off of St.John’s . Just throwing that out there. I don’t put anything pass them.
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In 5 days we will already know the answer.
Will we be a 4 seed.
Will they give us very hard match ups.
Will they put us in the hardest bracket.
Will we be sent far from home.
Will we be in a different time zone ,
or
Will we be a 2 seed.
Will our matchups appear to be favourable on paper.
Will we be in an easier bracket without Duke or Auburn.
Will we be sent to Providence , the same time zone and where we may also have a large contingent of fans supporting the team.
Lots of questions to be answered.
 
I heard some speculation yesterday that even if Providence/Newark makes the most sense for our seed, there are so many SEC teams at the top lines that need to be spread out that we could sent elsewhere anyway.
 
L J S A said:
I heard some speculation yesterday that even if Providence/Newark makes the most sense for our seed, there are so many SEC teams at the top lines that need to be spread out that we could sent elsewhere anyway.
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Someone already said it here but being a 2 seed makes it basically impossible to be in Newark
 
dk423 said:
Someone already said it here but being a 2 seed makes it basically impossible to be in Newark
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This podcaster's argument was against wanting the 3 if you are a St. John's fan instead of 2 because SEC overload could bite you in ass and keep you from being close to home anyway. I personally think we'll be a 2 out west.
 
L J S A said:
I heard some speculation yesterday that even if Providence/Newark makes the most sense for our seed, there are so many SEC teams at the top lines that need to be spread out that we could sent elsewhere anyway.
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Mocking it out:

Auburn - Lexington
Houston - Wichita
Duke - Raleigh
Florida - Raleigh
Alabama - Lexington
Tennessee - Milwaukee
Michigan State - Cleveland
St. John's - Providence

I think we end up in Providence pretty much regardless. Might not be in the East region though.
 
I understand, and get, that many posters enjoy all the metrics available to analyze seedlings, teams selected at large, etc., when in reality the selection process really comes down to the constant reality; ie, $$$$.
But, other than as personal comic relief, I have no interest in all the “analytics” involved in subjective selection processes because their only purpose for existence is to allow for human manipulation of the selection process. Just my opinion.
Case in point, after beating St. Mary’s last night for the automatic bid, Mark Few lobbied for seeding in the post game by letting everyone know Gonzaga was 350th in “luck” on Kenpom and revealed they had had sn inordinate number of 3’s banked in against them this year.
So personally, nothing but the deepest admiration for the person able to scam someone to pay them to rank all the 350 or so D1 basketball teams in “luck” but I guess there’s a market somewhere, again proving PT Barnum’s genius.
 
logen said:
I understand, and get, that many posters enjoy all the metrics available to analyze seedlings, teams selected at large, etc., when in reality the selection process really comes down to the constant reality; ie, $$$$.
But, other than as personal comic relief, I have no interest in all the “analytics” involved in subjective selection processes because their only purpose for existence is to allow for human manipulation of the selection process. Just my opinion.
Case in point, after beating St. Mary’s last night for the automatic bid, Mark Few lobbied for seeding in the post game by letting everyone know Gonzaga was 350th in “luck” on Kenpom and revealed they had had sn inordinate number of 3’s banked in against them this year.
So personally, nothing but the deepest admiration for the person able to scam someone to pay them to rank all the 350 or so D1 basketball teams in “luck” but I guess there’s a market somewhere, again proving PT Barnum’s genius.
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The subjectivity of college sports is something the powers that be are going to have to figure out. College football and hoops are now PRO sports.

Truth is I can't think of another professional league that "ranks" teams and uses analytical tools to seed teams, etc.

They must objectify the process....
 
passitback said:
The subjectivity of college sports is something the powers that be are going to have to figure out. College football and hoops are now PRO sports.

Truth is I can't think of another professional league that "ranks" teams and uses analytical tools to seed teams, etc.

They must objectify the process....
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I have been of the opinion the only way to make it objective is to have a tournament of all D1 teams. There would still be some subjectivity involved because there would be an “odd” number of teams so there would have to be byes involved in the first weekend but that’s all that would have to be added to the season. Hell, select the bye teams by lottery but at least it would be decided on the court for everyone.
Obviously impossible for football but I am largely not a football fan.
 
Metrics are flawed bur reason they are important is committee is made up of a bunch of administrators who have day jobs and don't have time to watch hundreds of games. They may not even get to watch many games oast there own team. Imagine if Ed Kull was on the committee. Past us, how many games was he watching all year to really make any educated decisions about who is good around the country?
 
logen said:
I have been of the opinion the only way to make it objective is to have a tournament of all D1 teams. There would still be some subjectivity involved because there would be an “odd” number of teams so there would have to be byes involved in the first weekend but that’s all that would have to be added to the season. Hell, select the bye teams by lottery but at least it would be decided on the court for everyone.
Obviously impossible for football but I am largely not a football fan.
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I know what you are saying, but in a way we already have a tournament of all D1 teams, beginning with the conference tournaments. It is the only assured way of making the NCAAs.
 
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